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NDAA: Pandora’s Box ?


The coup d’état bill

National Defense Authorization Act(NDAA)


A different perspective.


S.1867,NDAA Appears to be abandoned.

H.R. 1540: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012

Last Action: Dec 21, 2011: Presented to President. And not signed.


It makes me so angry how blown out of proportion, taken out of context ranging from the absurd to downright fear mongering, and makes me wonder why so many people and even Ron and Rand Paul have jumped on this band wagon of fear mongering and out of context BS, it has already damaged Ron Paul’s campaign. I have been studying the facts on this NDAA over the last few weeks intensely. This kind of rhetoric is what will give them the excuse they are looking for to shut the internet down, all it would take is some disgruntled person, and there are many, to go off the deep end over all this nonsense.


I want my readers to understand that if I could find one shred of truth of these claims I would be all over it like flies on poop, as I wrote in my last article when they were starting this fear campaign about how FEMA is getting these camps ready. I contacted, completely separately and without letting either know I had contacted the other, KBR and the people I know inside, and their stories matched from 3 different sources.


1. Yes this bill is an anti-American piece of TRASH no doubt. Anything that condones secret prisons, torture and imprisoning anyone from anywhere with no trial is illegal and un-American as it get’s. Not only that this bill is going after Iran big time and of course giving billions of dollars for more death and destruction around the globe to the military industrial complex as our nation slips into a 3rd world banana republic. This is nothing new, think Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act, they do what they will anyway and always have because we the people let them.


2 . Yes this Bill does allow anyone including possibly American citizens to be arrested by the military and sent to one of these gulags but only if they have committed a belligerent act or directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.

In aid of such enemy forces is the key.

A belligerent act in aid of such enemy forces, enemy forces in the bill are; as the bill reads- ” (1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks. Why isn’t anyone talking about this in the 9/11 truth movement? There should be a whole lot of people shaking in their boots right now.

(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces. Now this is from S. 1867 and has passed the senate but not the Congress nor been signed into law it looks to me that it has been abandoned. Here’s the link to see for yourself- http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-1867

H.R. 1540 : National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 this is the Bill that has passed both Senate and Congress and is just waiting for a signature or a veto from Barry Soetoro AKA Obama. I have included Sec 1021 and 1022 below.


Enemy forces in this bill are a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant to the direction of al-Qaeda; and have participated in the course of planning or carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the United States or its coalition partners.


The question is, are you a member of the enemy forces, or have you committed a belligerent act in aid of such enemy forces? Have you supported hostilities in aid of such enemy forces? Are you a person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks?

If your answer is no then the NDAA does not apply to YOU!


My conclusion and questions are.

This has nothing to do with the American people! It’s way bigger than that.


Why is no one in the truth movement talking about the good thing in this bill that would give the American Military by law to arrest, as this Bill states; “A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks. ” (This would include a broad range of Americans)

Might there be some kind of internal rift going on? Is this bill allowing the U.S. military to arrest anyone anywhere involved with 9/11 to be taken down and dealt with some kind of a counter threat in this great game being played out within.


It seems to me I would be pretty nervous if I were in the Bush administration or the intelligence apparatus and also remember this so called al-Qaeda is completely created by, run and controlled by al CIAduh let alone all the mock trials around the world, most recently Malaysia that have found Bush, Blair and Cheney just to name a few GUILTY of war crimes and crimes surrounding 9 1 1. I would be absolutely amazed if this ever gets signed into law. The good generals in the military would be responsible to arrest them all the day after it’s signed; legally!


Not only that, this will open Pandora’s Box for Russia and China to make their own laws to do the same, maybe God is working in mysterious ways and we will finally see some justice.

Almost everyone everywhere knows there are those amongst us that were/are involved with 9/11 and al-Qaeda.

This Bill is a threat and a dangerous game of chess being played out internally, if Obama signs this I wonder who the next Facebook patsy will be for the assassination. This is why I will be amazed if this ever gets signed into law.

If it does it will be very interesting to see if we have any real heroes in the military and if they will do their job, there should be a coup d’état within a few months and we will probably go under a military dictatorship temporarily until we get things sorted out.

If they want you they will get you without any legislation, bill or act, they do whatever they will and that’s what’s really scary. If this bill does get signed I really believe it will be eventually known in history as the coup d’état bill and we will see the US go into a military dictatorship for a short period until we throw off this abdominal government and replace it. The big brass is in the know and their just as tired of all this crap as we are, I think we are in for some interesting times very soon, it won’t be pretty I know but something has to be done soon or it’s going to be WWIII.


I still stand my ground and DON”T believe all this ‘the military is going to come after American citizens for blogging and being patriotic and start executing and throwing us in gulags’ this is all a bunch of BS and if it’s not all I can say is good luck it will be their biggest mistake, underestimating the American people.

FEMA, private contractors (KBR etc.) and the government are getting ready for a complete societal brake-down. I travel all over this country and I can’t even imagine in the event of a catastrophic event of any kind especially in these big cities. No one is prepared because most Americans believe nothing can happen here.


There are a lot of strange things going on inside the so called truth community… Beware!


H.R. 1540


Authorization for Use of Military Force
(Public Law 107–40) in military custody pending disposition
under the law of war.

‘Joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the recent attacks launched against the United States.’


Subtitle D—Counterterrorism
SEC. 1021. AFFIRMATION OF AUTHORITY OF THE ARMED FORCES OF
THE UNITED STATES TO DETAIN COVERED PERSONS
PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY
FORCE.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Congress affirms that the authority of the
President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to
the Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40;
50 U.S.C. 1541 note) includes the authority for the Armed Forces
of the United States to detain covered persons (as defined in subsection
(b) )
pending disposition under the law of war.
(b) COVERED PERSONS .—A covered person under this section
is any person as follows:
(1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided
the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001,
or harbored those responsible for those attacks.
(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported
al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged
in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners,
including any person who has committed a belligerent act or
has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy
forces.

(c) DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR.—The disposition of a
person under the law of war as described in subsection (a) may
include the following:
(1) Detention under the law of war without trial until
the end of the hostilities authorized by the Authorization for
Use of Military Force.
(2) Trial under chapter 47A of title 10, United States
Code (as amended by the Military Commissions Act of 2009
(title XVIII of Public Law 111–84)).
(3) Transfer for trial by an alternative court or competent
tribunal having lawful jurisdiction.
(4) Transfer to the custody or control of the person’s country
of origin, any other foreign country, or any other foreign entity.
(d) CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this section is intended to limit
or expand the authority of the President or the scope of the
Authorization for Use of Military Force.
(e) AUTHORITIES.— Nothing in this section shall be construed
to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of
United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States,
or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United
States.

(f) REQUIREMENT FOR BRIEFINGS OF CONGRESS.—The Secretary
of Defense shall regularly brief Congress regarding the application
of the authority described in this section, including the organizations,
entities, and individuals considered to be ‘‘covered persons’’
for purposes of subsection (b)(2).
H. R. 1540—266
SEC. 1022. MILITARY CUSTODY FOR FOREIGN AL-QAEDA TERRORISTS.
(a) CUSTODY PENDING DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in paragraph (4), the
Armed Forces of the United States shall hold a person described
in paragraph (2) who is captured in the course of hostilities
authorized by the Authorization for Use of Military Force
(Public Law 107–40) in military custody pending disposition
under the law of war.
(2) COVERED PERSONS.—The requirement in paragraph (1)
shall apply to any person whose detention is authorized under
section 1021 who is determined—
(A) to be a member of, or part of, al-Qaeda or an
associated force that acts in coordination with or pursuant
to the direction of al-Qaeda; and
(B) to have participated in the course of planning or
carrying out an attack or attempted attack against the
United States or its coalition partners.

(3) DISPOSITION UNDER LAW OF WAR.—For purposes of this
subsection, the disposition of a person under the law of war
has the meaning given in section 1021(c), except that no
transfer otherwise described in paragraph (4) of that section
shall be made unless consistent with the requirements of section
1028.
(4) WAIVER FOR NATIONAL SECURITY.—The President may
waive the requirement of paragraph (1) if the President submits
to Congress a certification in writing that such a waiver is
in the national security interests of the United States.
(b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS AND LAWFUL
RESIDENT ALIENS.—
(1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The requirement to detain
a person in military custody under this section does not extend
to citizens of the United States.

(2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The requirement to detain
a person in military custody under this section does not extend
to a lawful resident alien of the United States on the basis
of conduct taking place within the United States, except to
the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States.

(c) IMPLEMENTATION PROCEDURES.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 60 days after the date
of the enactment of this Act, the President shall issue, and
submit to Congress, procedures for implementing this section.
(2) ELEMENTS.—The procedures for implementing this section
shall include, but not be limited to, procedures as follows:
(A) Procedures designating the persons authorized to
make determinations under subsection (a)(2) and the
process by which such determinations are to be made.
(B) Procedures providing that the requirement for military
custody under subsection (a)(1) does not require the
interruption of ongoing surveillance or intelligence gathering
with regard to persons not already in the custody
or control of the United States.
(C) Procedures providing that a determination under
subsection (a)(2) is not required to be implemented until
after the conclusion of an interrogation which is ongoing
at the time the determination is made and does not require
the interruption of any such ongoing interrogation.


NDAA FAQ: A Guide for the Perplexed


by Benjamin Wittes

(Benjamin Wittes & Robert Chesney)

The volume of sheer, unadulterated nonsense zipping around the internet about the NDAA boggles the mind. There was a time–only a few
months ago–when the NDAA detention provisions were the obscure province of a small group of national security law nerds. Now,
however, this bill has rocketed to international notoriety. The added attention to it is a good thing. It’s an important subject and
warrants genuine debate and discussion. The trouble is that much of the discussion is the intellectual equivalent of the “death
panel” objections to the health care bill. While certain journalists have done a good job covering the controversy, it’s much easier
to get bad information than good. The reader who wants answers to simple questions faces a confusing array of conflicting
information.

Here then, as a public service, is an NDAA FAQ–a simple attempt to lay out the key questions people are asking about the NDAA and
answer them as simply and neutrally as we can. Many of the answers here we have discussed in greater depth elsewhere on the blog. We
will link to those posts for readers who want greater depth. This is an overview, a Guide for the Perplexed.

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/12/ndaa-faq-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/